Rationing on Ebay ??

srjsms
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๐Ÿ˜› amitava123gems listed a coral necklace that i wanted to buy. when i clicked the buy it now Option i got a msg that says " Buying Activity Limit Reached


To help protect your account, we limit the amount of items purchased by a single account at any one time.

This buying limit is temporary. You can come back soon and buy more items. "

Now there are NO unpaid items. all items i bought are paid for. i have bid on 5 Items..god alone knows if i will win them or lose the bids to either Shill Bidding or fraud bidders.. in such a case i dont think its fair to place a limit on a buyer. its like ebay is underestimating a persons credit worthiness to pay for a product. my ICICI card gives me a limit of 100,000. my SBI card has a limit of 50,000, my ABN Amro debit card has a balance of rs. 4,50,000/- inspite of this its frustrating when i get this message everytime i bid. i guess ebay should place this limit wen a person has not paid for the items. and not wen a person has just bid on some items.

learned members of the community....what do u say.. am an old member....here...even though this id is just 20 days old..my first id had 95+ ratings!
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posting.id.in
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Hello srjsms,

I have checked your account and seen that you are currently bidding on 30 live auctions (even though you are not the top bidder) and not 5.

I wonder how much buying you are going to do in a week?

I have also noted that you are currently the top bidder for 3 Jagsar Handsets from seller cheap_tech_gadgets. Do you intend to pay for all 3 handsets if you win all 3?

There is another reason for placing bidding limits on new users.

A number of unscrupulous sellers bid on their auctions to increase the price of the product - this is known as shill bidding.

Their modus operandi is to open new accounts from cybercafes and bid on more than 10-15 of their auctions and increase the rate of products to their minimum expected price. They use these ids for a few days and than create new ids and forget these ones.

This way they avoid detection of their shill bidding activities.

Placing limits on new users is one effective way to stop such extensive shill bidding.

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srjsms
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mr.Posting I.d. are u tryin to say that am a shill bidder....?? check my other id..i have been a member since 2000..much before u i presume... as regards bidding...i have bid on 30..but how many am i winning...??? second....u spoke about BIN.. BIN isnt working too..the limits on BIN too.. as regards whether i intend to purchase all 3 Imate Jasjars........yes...even if i win 20 Jasjars for the Max amount that i have bid i Intend to purchase....u have any doubts regards my financial ability ..then please contact ABN AMro Bank, Mangalore..and ask them about the Over Draft limit that i enjoy.. you wouldnt even dream of such Over draft limit.!! and please dont under estimate a person just coz his new ID has one rating....
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srjsms
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I wonder how much buying you are going to do in a week? thats the problem with us Indians......mr Posting id.in.... we just under estimate the other persons ability..... if u have ever studied economics..... buying an item in a merket where its cheap and selling it in another market wheere there is demand is called " arbitrage" what if i tell u that i have the capacity to buy things worth about 5,00,000 in a WEEK... wud u be offering any products at a price thats acceptable to me....????uve been a member since just 2005....ive been a member since baazee days..



I have also noted that you are currently the top bidder for 3 Jagsar Handsets from seller cheap_tech_gadgets. Do you intend to pay for all 3 handsets if you win all 3?
in case u missed the point. i had also bid on Jasjars from Teknix and kundan lal and Sudarshan.... at a uniform rate...i need 25 Jasjar Handsets for the rate that i have bid... can u supply them at the rate that i have bid.?????? ur asking me if i can pay for those arent you....???? you could very well satisfy yourself about my abaility...do u want a Bank guarantee for Rs. 5,00,000 ???? as for not using buy it now..... my distributor can supply them for 42000/- with bill and warranty....6000 less than the cheapest buy it now price....what do u say for that..??? i dont think anyone wud use buy it now...at 48,000 if he could even get the same under auction for 47000/-

as regards your concern on shill bidding..u seem to be having quite some know;ege on it....tried it before haan ??

On my selling id, I have faced this problem many times. When I call up buyers of sucessfull auctions, the standard response was "I have bid on a lot of simmilar products and I am waiting to see how those auction goes" so u have a separate selling id......???? well Mr. Postings..... u urself just admitted as regards having multiple id's!!!

As for you O.P., why do you need to place bids on 3 auctions of the same product? If you win all 3 would be buying all 3? This does no happen in advanced markets where sellers do as many as 10 auctions of the same product all ending on the same day. Buy buyers only bid on 1 acution as they know that if they win the auction, they have to pay for it. like i said in my earlier post.....if i cud bid on more..i wud have gladly done so.... as regards as to why i need to bid on all 3 products......well they started at rs. 1..and i have bid upto a limit...which i think if i win..i can make a profit.. in fact earlier i have bid on 25 Nokia N 70's at Rs. 15000/- and won 8 of them and duly paid for them and taken delivery.. probably u wudnt understand my way of doing business....i have listed a few products for sale... 1 deo for 100 2 deos for 175..3 deo's for 250.... does it mean that a person who buys 3 deos is bidding juss coz he wants to have fun..?? theres something called as economy of purchasing in large quanitities.. if u buy 10 Deos i can give u the same for 1000/- and 20 deos for 1900 and 30 deos for 2800/- a Smart and dynamic person would bid on the 30, keep the ones he wants and sell the remaining to his firend and yet make business!!!


The low value products (699 + 1000) which you have referred could easily have been bought on BIN at a nominal difference.
please see whether the sellers have offered the same on BIN as ur soo very confidently saying that i cud have purchased on BIN... wud u buy a product on BIN if it costed u 900 bucks whereas on Auction u cud win the same for 300 ???? i dont think so that u''d be so generous.. if u are...please show ur geneorsity by buying a product that ive listed on BIN....as well as available in auction...

Yes, the rediff solution is best but eBay is not prepared for this. IT is not even prepared for a PaisaPay veriication of buyer, even as a option. It has only gone as far as SMS verification. its a pity that inspite of claiming to be a seller and having another id..u arent aware that credit card verification is also available..apart from SMS verification. what is not available is Charging of the Credit card as soon as the Auction is Won.!

					
				
			
			
				
			
			
				
			
			
			
			
			
			
		
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ufo_big
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I don't understand this thread. One place it is informed by srjsms that he can not bid more than five items and in another place he is telling that he has bid on thirty live auctions. What is the complain then?
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srjsms
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CORRECTION ITS NOT 30....ITS 18 AUCTIONS.... NOW I CANT BID ON ANY..NOR CAN I USE BUY IT NOW....COZ AM WINNING 5....
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Hi friends,
srjsms is an old member with a new id.He came back obviously because he wants to be in the community.Why not let him talk?Thanx,,Truly,,Amitava
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snrama
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Hi posting.id.in,

I have came to know that srjsms is very old member.

Even myself is an old member from 03-Nov-2000 and I don't think many of you don't know.

I have a old user id navneeth_snr, But I haven't used it till date.

eBay is very special to me. ---------------
With Regards,
Navaneeth (snrama) ๐Ÿ˜‰
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With Regards,
Navaneeth (snrama) ๐Ÿ˜‰
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posting.id.in
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Hello srjsms,

I have nothing against you. This is not a personal discussion. It is about a policy of buyer limitations.

If you want to talk about some other id, mention it - do not give vague references.

1) Yes you are not bidding on 30 items but 20. I beleive 20 live bids is a good enough restriction.

2) You can buy as much as you want but these are restricton on bidding for new members.

3) Sir if you expect any seller to sell you a product in auction or bin below his buying price you are living in a dream world.

4) I have never insinuated that you are a shill bidder but just mentioned a need for having buyer requirements.

5) For your information there is a Jasjar phone at Rs.37000/- on BIN.

6) Franky I did not see a single bid for Nokia N 70 mobile phone on the id - srjsms. And I would really love do business with the seller who is selling Nokia N 70 at 15,000/-

7) When I mean SMS verification, it was a meant as a Buyer requirement which a seller can set. Seller cannot today set CC verification as a Buyer Requirement.

8) As there are buyer limitations, eBay also places certain limitations on new sellers, viz ability to list mulitple quantity auctions, 1 day auctions, ability to open shops, etc. till a certain number of feedback is attained.

Yes limitations my be irksome for someone who is a old user but I do not beliver any new user who need to bid on as many as 20 auctions and if the O.P. need to bid on more than 20 auctions, he is more than welcome to use his old id, where I beleive no limitations would be there.

Now some of you must have noted that this is a posting id. Which means I want annonymity, hence I will not go into how old a user I am on eBay / Baazee.com or how many transacations I have completed. But let it suffice that I have been here for a some time and have done enough transactions on this site.

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Hi friends,Like Navaneeth said,I also have an old ID rahaa_in1.And ,ofcourse,I never used that.Thanx,,Truly,,Amitava
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srjsms
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lemme make a few things clear again...i had bid on 18 items.. but am winning in just 4. still the buying restriction Continues ๐Ÿ˜ž now in the remianing 14 auctions ive been outbid..and i do not intend to bid again on those coz in certain cases the bids have reached unreal levels.

1) Yes you are not bidding on 30 items but 20. I beleive 20 live bids is a good enough restriction. - please tell the community how many am i winning. ???? ur making it appear as if ur bent upon proving that im committing a great injustice against ebay policy by taking this matter up here....

2) You can buy as much as you want but these are restricton on bidding for new members. the BUY IT NOW option is also disabled.. in other words the buy it now option also gets restricted wen i said restriction is placed.

3) Sir if you expect any seller to sell you a product in auction or bin below his buying price you are living in a dream world. Navneeth, Amitava...take note here..there was somethread where this gentleman spoke about shill bidding and non paying buyers... if someone listed an item on paisa Auction and the item got sold for much less than the Expected price....then PLEAE NAVNEETH , AMITAVA... tell this gentleman here..isnt the seller supposed to honour the bid....??? and give the item at the winning price, which could be much below his cost...???

5) For your information there is a Jasjar phone at Rs.37000/- on BIN. ive seen that JASJAR phone for 38 K + 601 Shipping. it is used. for that matter outside ebay there are sellers who can sell it for 33K.. further if i win an auction for 28K.....im sure i'd say a good lot of money which i can use to patronise your store..

Franky I did not see a single bid for Nokia N 70 mobile phone on the id - srjsms. And I would really love do business with the seller who is selling Nokia N 70 at 15,000/- i told u it was from my other ID... the DEaler Price for this item is 19949/- in Karnataka. and on Auction i wudnt bid above 15,000 for this product...

Yes limitations my be irksome for someone who is a old user but I do not beliver any new user who need to bid on as many as 20 auctions and if the O.P. need to bid on more than 20 auctions, he is more than welcome to use his old id, where I beleive no limitations would be there U DO NOT BELIEVE ANY NEW USER WHO BIDS ON 20 OR MORE ITEMS...???? HAHA..THATS SORT OF A UNDER STATEMENT AS REGARDS YOUR CUSTOMERS.. FOR US CUSTOMERS ARE GOD...NOT THE REVERSE AS U WUD TREAT THEM...NOT ALL NEW USERS ARE FRAUDS MR. POSTING.. ITS LIKE WITH 1 +VE RATING, SINCE SEPTEMBER 2005, IT SEEMS THAT YOU ARENT AS ACTIVE.....AS A BUYER. LOOK AT CERTAIN PEOPLE WHO SINCE SEPTEMBER TO THIS DAY..BEING BUYERS HAVE A RATING OF 100 AND ABOVE... AND YES IF RESTRICTIONS ARE PLACED ON BUDDING BUYERS...OR ON OLD MEMBERS...II DONT THINK I'D BE ABLE TO BUY ANY PRODUCT HERE AT THE PRICE THATS SUITABLE TO ME... AND U AS A SELLER WUDNT BE ABLE TO SELL ANYTHING AT ALL!

this is a posting id. Which means I want annonymity this itself leads us to believe that there are several things anyonymous about you, rather than barging in here with all your statistics about my account and my activities......which in my opinion is a breach of confidentiality on the part of EBAY, and a possible account invasion on your part..since in my opinion....i dont think any person wud come to know what ive bid on..am i right Amitava / Navneeth...???

Amitava / Navneeth please confirm as to whether any other member can give Account statistics, no of bids, no of BIN, NO of Bids won of another user on Ebay..like Mr. Posting did.....coz now am having doubts......if these details are available to Posting.id.. isnt it possible that our other confidential details..credit card details etc wud be available to them.....secondly..wudnt the other user cause mis information to be spread among the community about a users buying trends and items he has bought....casuing him great shame and loss of face...??? as well as black mail him at times...???
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