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sapana@ebay.com
eBay Employee
eBay Employee
Dear Members

At eBay, it has been our constant endeavor to improve our buyer and seller experience. Some initiatives we have recently taken in this direction are a new Home Page layout, Feedback 2.0 and improving feedback adoption through promotions like Cricket Mania. The new Home Page layout helps us showcase interesting inventory like 1Paisa auctions, whereas Feedback 2.0 is a result of frequent community feedback to incorporate more details in the Feedback system.

Providing our users with better value is also a key focus area, and we have tried to address this through introducing new features like "Markdown Manager" using which sellers can run discounted promotions in their shops, thus helping sellers showcase their offerings better and helping buyers find good bargains.

To achieve our twin objectives of better value and improved user experience, we are introducing a new Fee Structure for all categories.


Key changes are:

• All listings created on eBay India will be subject to new Listing Fees, revised Final Value Fees, revised Feature Fees and Seller Tools Fees. These new fees shall be applicable to all listings in all formats (i.e. BIN, Shop Inventory format, and Auctions) created on or after 11:59 PM IST on 31st March 2007

• Listing fees shall apply to all listings by sellers who have listed more than 20 listings on eBay

• No Gallery Fees will be charged, however sellers will need to select Gallery while creating the listing to avail the feature

• Listing Fees will be credited if your item does not sell successfully (including Unpaid Item) for the first time, but is successfully sold in the 1st re-list instance

• Fees associated with Services & Real Estate and Cars & Bikes categories remain unchanged

We understand that our sellers may need to make changes to their current business plan to accommodate these new fee changes. So, we encourage you to check the Managing your eBay Business Strategy, download the Fee Calculator, attend our Online Workshop on 23rd March, or use our Customer Support Resources to help you understand your overall listing strategy.

To learn more about these Fee changes, read our FAQ section. Your suggestions & comments are valuable to us and we encourage you to share your feedback with us on this thread.

We are aware that, as a seller, you have a choice of outlets through which to sell your products. We appreciate that you choose to do business with eBay. We will continue to work hard to ensure that our sellers and buyers continue to have great eBay user experiences.



Regards,

Sapana

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Dear Ebay policy makers,

I would like to say some more facts regarding the listing fee insertion.
I believe that buyer are not very happy with the ebay purchases these days because of some facts as under :
1. There are too many items of same kind, that causes buyer difficulty to select the right item. He then chooses cheaper item and buyes it. But this item is no longer a genuine item and the buyer came to know about it after a few days- even after leaving feedback but till then, there is nobody to care for the buyer.
2 Since the ebay does not verify any seller, hence chances of such duplicate cheaper items are very high. These fraud seller are frequently changing their IDs and ebay does not take any action against them even if some buyer or other member complains about them. hence buyer hesitates to re buy any item through ebay.
3. Paisapay payment processing is very slow and even now the paisapay requires hard copy of credit cards to which buyer is not interested to send. hence he buyes the item from somewhere else.
4. Ebay promotion and FVF is too high that it makes an item too costly for the buyer that it is available to him much cheaper from local market so why he would like to buy it from ebay?
5 Ebay itself allows upto 5 duplicate listings why ?
6. Regular listing and shop listing are considered in different way hence for shop owners, the no of listing will be doubled hence the total no of listing on ebay again doubles.
7 Ebay's dispute handling system is not proper. It clearly says to communicate with each other rather then trying to solve the dispute itself. In most case the suffering party does not get justice hence if it is the buyer who suffers, he never comes to ebay to buy. If the seller suffers in any such dispute, he tries to recover its loss by unfair means ie through creating fake seller id and selling and other such means by which he can recover its loss.
8 Ebay's feedback system still does not justified as incase any feedback dispute, ebay clearly washes its hand even if the feedback is totally wrong. Ebay should itself remove improper feedback by personally looking it same as it was done by baazee.com.

Atleast, ebay should keep shop listings free from this fee as shop listings are not same as regular listings. Since shop owners are already paying shop subscription fee so this double fee is not justified at all. This will keep unwanted listings away as well as sellers who are serious and are already paying shop subscription fee, will not be unnecessarily burdned by this listing fee.

I am sure if ebay consider all the above facts, there will be surely more sale on ebay as everyone will feel safe here. Also unwanted listings will be removed as the listing fee will be applicable only on the reguler listing and not on shop inventory and the genuine sellers can offer their item in an easy selectable way through thier shops.
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khannajewels
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HI,
I am totally at unease with ebay system
I really dont understand the need to Introduce Such a high fee. IF you want to increase fees, increase the % on sale.

We are loosing Control of FREE MARKET.
Regulation for a buyer to have freedom to list articles at high cost will only add to the expense of the buyer

It is sad deterent for NEW SELLER and old sellers like us.

We have employed manpower to affix selling on ebay And all of sudden this implication.

A simple calculation i list about 3000 Plus Unique lisitngs weekely. Out of this the conversion ratio is only 2-3%, as high value buyer requires variety & variation.
So the direct implication is that i will be loosing about 3000 X 5Rs X 4weeks Rs.60000/- montlhy without materialsing sale.

I think their figures about increase with sale with decrease in listing is highly speculative. U cannot compare one category with another.

In jewllery section it is not feasible to list only the highest selling product, as we have no products like that. Unlike other consumer branded products. Like for eg a Mobile seller might want to Sell the latest "X" number of model which is new & in demand. In jewllery section we have no "X" or "HOT" model selling. We cannot shift base to shop.

May i request ebay to do a survey of this with all the sellers of a particular category and seek asnwers themselves?

It will really give them a realistic picture . And open market to Optimal FREE SELLING.

All in Good Faith !!
Ambesh Khanna
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khannajewels
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I just saw this messgae from JHELUM JEWELERS " Think if Ebay Needs to Bring the LISTING CHARGES,
Ebay should have Started with 25 Paisa or 50 Paisa intially,
"

YES IT MAKES SENSE, IF U HAVE TO INCREASE FEE THEN START WITH SMALL AMOUNT . FROM 0-Rs.5 , IS LIKE 500% INCREASE !!

BEST WISHES
Ambesh Khanna
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creative_pursuits
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sapana...

I can see many posts here from sellers like me who sell items in categories which need variety and variation..for ex.apparels, jewellery.

Its just not possiible to select a few items in these categories and list them or even predict which items will sell because each buyers choice wud be different.

I havent seen any answer to this point by ur team till now......have u guys given a thought on this and whats ur explanation for such categories.will they also do well as per ur policy makers???If Yes Then HOW???

Regards
Mala
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vedika_diamonds
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Dear Sapna,

I completely Agree with "Khanna Jewels",
We have to List A Huge Number of items to give consumer a variety.From what i have seen there is nothing specific in our Jewellery category that sells.

Dear Ebay, buyers love to buy from ebay as they get such a huge variey in our jewellery category.What will happen when we all start reducing our inventories here on Ebay.

Buyers will have Less Choice, They will turn for other options either offline or other sites.

Think...

Varun Kohli
New_Jhelum_Jewellers
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posting.id.in
Community Member
Hello Ambesh,

I keep hearing this argument again and again on this discussion :-

"We have to List A Huge Number of items to give consumer a variety. From what i have seen there is nothing specific in our Jewellery category that sells"

I am simply wondering if this is the case - how do you decide which 350 odd listing from the total of 3000 odd listings to feature with "world wide" shipping?
How do you decide why items to feature on home page and why items to feature on the category and search pages?


Obviously you know very well which are your best selling products and thus you decide to focus on them for international sales and for listing enhancements. You will simply have to apply the same logic to your domestic sales.

Every good seller know which of his products sells faster than other. It now a question of making the right choices.
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sapana@ebay.com
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Hi pc_gaming_store,

My apologies for having misunderstood your question! As I understood it the question was on having more payment partners for PaisaPay, therefore the answer.

Coming back to the question of ABN AMRO question -As you rightly pointed out, it is an error on our end and we are aware of the same. We are working to rectify it. At this moment I will not be in a position to give a timeframe by which we expect the same to be rectified.

Regards,
Sapana
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sapana@ebay.com
eBay Employee
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Hi shreelaptop,

Following are my thoughts on the concerns raised by you:

You rightly said that in current scenario buyers finds too many listings and at times ends up making a wrong choice. This is exactly the point where we think listing fee will improve buyer experience. If eBay is a place where there are too many products and the product quality is low, buyer will be skeptical about buying on eBay. Today a seller can list a product at 1 re, with 500 shipping charge because he does not need to worry about getting a return on investment, since he is not investing any. With listing fee in picture he will be far more judicious about creating listings, thereby creating better listings which will be a good user experience for the buyers.

On your point of seller verification, I agree that it is very important to have quality sellers and ensure that the bad apples do not spoil the customer experience. Over the past once year we have taken significant steps towards the same. We worked with the Law enforcement agencies to catch sellers who were creating bad user experience. Based on our last year learnings, we are also taking pro-active steps to block such sellers. We are already seeing some benefits of the same. Given the sensitive nature of this topic, I will be unable to discuss this further. However, rest assured, improving the quality of sellers and removing bad sellers from the site is one of our top focus areas.

On PaisaPay payment front, did you know that only a few buyers are asked for payment verification? Now the question, why do we ask the buyer for verification? At times, it is important to asses if the payment is genuine. If there were a mis-authorized use of the buyer’s credit card, we can catch it at the beginning itself and the buyer will not have to worry about or go through the pains of filing for a chargeback. He should know that paying with PaisaPay is safe and secure for him. We understand that it means some inconvenience for few buyers as well as sellers. In the past we have taken steps to reduce the inconvenience. The PaisaPay payment processing team today works for 7 days to ensure faster processing of credit card payments. If a buyer is not reachable, the seller is informed of the same to ensure smooth communication. We welcome further ideas to create a better communication flow. However, we will continue to do payment verification where required because we believe that it is essential for a good user experience.

On promotion charges, as I mentioned in one of my earlier posts, marketing expenses need to spread over more products, instead of one. At the cost of repetition, I will post the following here:

Lets have a look at the promotion cost and what it does for a seller. In an offline world, you give a print ad in newspaper or say distribute leaflets to popularise your shop. The expense is to spread your brand awareness. The success of the promotion will depend on various things like the messaging, timing of the message etc. It will not be possible for you to recover that cost from one product. Normally the promotion or marketing spend is budgeted as an expenditure in Profit n Loss and spread across various products sold.

Your eBay promotions are similar. You promote one product; however the visibility you receive is not restricted to one product. A user who comes to your one product and finds it interesting will probably land up on 'view other items from the seller' or on the promotional block at the bottom of the listing page. Thus it is not possible to assign the promotion cost to just one listing. In fact it is advisable to create a separate budget for marketing and use it on a planned basis. For example, if you have a marketing spend of 1000 Rs for a month, you can decide that every week you will spend 250 on promotion. On a weekly basis, you can decide that you will spend Rs 100 in featured promotion while 150 you will put up for products on 1 paisa auction. Similarly, you can set up your marketing expenses according to season. you may decide to promote certain kind of products during Valentine, while promote others during Diwali.


On the question of allowing 5 duplicate listing, eBay offers the option to list a product 5 times, so as to provide flexibility to a seller if required. For example, a seller may want to list the same product in buy it now, as well as auction and / or only for international buyers. Similarly, at times he might need the ability to ensure that his new listings start even before the earlier ones have closed, (in case he cannot create new listings due to time constraints). The above are just two examples, where sellers might need more flexibility in creating listings.

On your point on shop listings, while shop owners do pay extra fees, they also get the benefits like branding opportunity, longer listing duration, email marketing tool and other features that are not available to non shop listings. I do not agree that the shop listings should be free. On the contrary, if shop listings are free, it will create a huge arbitrage opportunity in shops and might dilute the intention of creating a healthy site.

On eBay’s dispute handling process, I agree with you that the process currently has a lot to be desired. The teams are working to see how we can make the process more efficient. Once we have more clarity on the new process, we shall update our members on the same.

On the feedback system, I understand members passion towards their feedback reputation. However, I do not agree that eBay’s intervention is a great idea.
The credibility of the feedback system comes from the fact that it is completely member generated and eBay does not interfere in the same. We did have a feature to edit ratings in Baazee days, and I don’t think the ratings in Baazee days were considered as fair as they are in eBay.
Having said that I also understand that there are community needs that the current feedback system does not fulfill. Honestly, I don’t think we have a ready answer for all of them. However, please allow me to assure you that the teams are constantly working to understand how best they may upgrade the feedback system to meet our user needs better. feedback 2.0 is just a step in that direction.

I hope the above helps you find some answers that you were seeking. Do feel free to post your further thoughts.

Regads,
Sapana
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sapana@ebay.com
eBay Employee
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Hi,

Following are my thoughts on the point raised by khannajewels, creative_pursuits and new_jhelum_jewellers.

We do understand the need to provide a wide variety to buyers in the listing fee scenario. As a seller you may want to leverage the many features available on ebay for the purpose. For example, a seller could list his best selling products in the core site and list the slower moving ones in shops. As you would know, the listing fee in shops is the same as core but with the advantage of a 30 day duration, which reduces a seller's cost. This allows a seller to offer variety as well as improves the buying experience. A buyer gets to see the best selling products easily and if he wants more variety, he can find them in the shops. One practice that I have seen other shop sellers follow is they ensure that their shop category structure reflects in their listings description. By using this feature sellers can ensure that once a buyer steps into their listing, he can easily look at other products being offered in the shop.

Further, a seller could leverage feature fees to increase exposure to his core listings from where he could than drive traffic to his shop listings. Some other benefits of a shop that a seller may leverag are:
--getting indexed in Search Engines for natural search
--email marketing
--Opportunity to create one’s own branding

I hope the above helps in giving some directions. Please do not hesitate to write back with further questions or concerns.

Regards,
Sapana

P.S: Buyers tell us that they believe that sellers who have a shop are more serious than other sellers and thus prefer to buy from shop sellers. They believe that sellers with shop will give them better service compared to a non-shop seller.
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Dear Sapana,

I am not agree with you that you are honestly working to keep fraud sellers away from ebay.
I have recently informed ebay about some such sellers and provided sufficient info about their activities those are against ebay policy. These sellers are still selling fake items with misleading contact info but they are successfully selling on ebay. They are already suspended from ebay but now have created new id with misleading contact info and selling duplicate items. but ebay took no action against them.
How can I trust that u people are honestly working to make the ebay a good place to get genuine items.
The only reason behind this is that these sellers are showing good sales due to low price and the people will came to know the genuinity of the items after a few months.
Why these people are allowed to continue with second id when they are suspended for policy violation for their first id. This is against ebay policy but this is allowed by ebay itself why?
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