Frauds on ebay.in

rahul_rules30
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HI.I HAVE JUST STARTED BUSINESS THROUGH THIS SITE,AND AFTER 3 MONTHS OF SELLING AND RESEARCH,I HAVE CONCLUDED THAT THIS SITE IS FOR FRAUDS AND NON PAYING BUYERS.FROM LISTING OF HIGH END PHONES,NIGERIANS BUY IT AND THEN GO UNREGISTERED.IF THE ITEMS ARE REASONABLY IN PRICE,THE INDIAN CUSTOMERS WONT BUY IT AND BUY SIMILAR ITEMS WHICH ARE 40% LESS THAN THAT PRICE!!!WHICH IS IMPOSSIBLE TO GET IN THE MARKET AND THIS WILL SURELY APPEAR TO BE A FRAUD. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY SUGGESTION IN ATLEAST TELLING THE INDIAN ONLINE CUSTOMERS THE WAY TO BUY SAFELY???
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I totally disagree. It is your fault if you send some item without receiving the payment. Please make sure that the payment has been received and then only dispatch the item.
If you sell your item off ebay and take payment off ebay how can you blame the system. Whatever you sell, where ever you sell first be satisfied that the payment has already been made by the buyer. Only after being sure that the payment has been made you can ship anywhere, anywhere to Nigeria or Georgia (just for poetry).
Rajasthanstore.
(An online store of Rajasthani Items)
http://stores.ebay.in/Rajasthanstore
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buyorsell-com
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hi guys

please please i urge all sellers to never send your items before it has been paid for nomatter what

1 look out for nigarian scammers

2 first get the payment then send the item

3 look out for uncles in nigeria but post it to zambia

good luck
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jason_chiu888
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hi.. i have just been selling a few days back. well, starting off is just another headache with no one to buy from you. but i think patience and hardwork pays off. the next time a buyer tell me that i am going to run off with his money... i'll just tell him this "why would i run off with your mere few hundred rupees or mere few thousand rupees.. whereas if i do business and stick with ebay i would get more than tens of thousands. and if i do run off with his money i would never be able to do business again on ebay." so sellers are not that stupid to run off with a few hundred bucks and lose millions selling on ebay.
regards
jason
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techcityrobot
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I have been here for the last few days. I am selling some
mobile phones through ebay.

>>> I am facing severe problem
>>1st Case:-
At first I placed my benq mobile phone for sale and a lady named sarahjones(now not registered with ebay), bought my mobile by buy it now option. After that she contacted me . She said that now she is in Italy and
want to send this mobile to her son who is residing in London. Though I mentioned in the product listing page that the shipping will be done only to places inside India, taking into consideration her wish to present
this mobile phone to her son, I managed to go to the near by courier service, then to DHL courier office,Postoffice, Insurance office etc to collect information about the shipping charges to London. After Knowing the shipping charges, she told me that she will prefer DHL courier
service. After that when I asked her to pay the money Rs 3500 for mobile and Rs 2475 towards DHL courier service, she stopped responding. She wasted my 9 days time. She was a fraud.

On complaining of an unpaid item, as she is not registered with ebay , I was granted Final Value Fee.
Thanks to Ebay.

>>2nd case.
This time I placed Nokia 6600 for sale.Within 12 hours of time the mobile was purchased by somebody named jamesalora1 . He says, that he is a US citizen born and bought up in India. he says, now he is in London
and he had puchased this mobile for his friend who is in Nigeria. His friend's birthday is coming and he wnat to give the mobile as surprice gift to the Nigerian friend. He asked me to send this mobile to Nigeria. There after there was no reply though I contacted him.

In both case, the buyers are fraudulant. I found that in Ebay, any one can make id's of their choice to do fraud like these. Why don't you take steps to stop frauds like these.

Please take necessary steps to prevent fraud. Due to these fraud buyers, I am losing my earnings and days and also I am losing the interest and trust in ebay.
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coolbrasco
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Hello,

For sellers to avoid frauds, - My own guide.

Never ship an item until you get your money paid into your bank accounts or PaisaPay credit or PayPal credit.

If you want to receive cheque or DD for payments, ask them to drop in ATMS in their city with your bank account number, and ask for DD Number and check your bank account regularly, if amount credited you ship.

If they dont pay, Send an invoice and wait, if they does not pay even after 7 days open an unpaid dispute with no worries. Once you are elegible for final value fees by getting a blue mark, close the dispute and make an unpaid strike against the buyer.

Never leave a -ve feedback for unpaid customers, then your feedback form will not give a good look if others come and read. Better to forgive and forget.

Best Regards,







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andyward420
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Hi guys,

I'm a new ebay member in the U.S. and like you I'm also frustrated by these scams being perpetrated by various individuals on the site. I was attempting to sell a new laptop and a fradulent bidder basically hijacked my auction causing me lose my sale (revenue) and waste my time and energy in dealing with them and on recovering my fees from ebay. So I've done some research into how these fraudulent scams work, and on how to prevent falling victim to them. Here are some steps I've come up with that may prove helpful:

1) Someone has already mentioned this before, and I would like to emphasize it as well. Somewhere on the auction description area of each of your listings you should mention in big letters: WILL ABSOLUTELY NOT SHIP TO NIGERIA OR ANYWHERE ELSE EXCEPT ________ ! (fill in the blank with the name(s) of location(s) that you WILL ship to). You can do this easily by typing in the following HTML command < h 1 > at the begining that statement, and then < / h 1 > at the end of it. Hopefully, seeing that message in large bold letters will discourage the con-artists from bidding on your items, although it can't actually prevent them from bidding. And while you're at it, you may also want to place an additional message stating that buyers must already have a certain number of positive feedbacks (e.g. 10 or more), or otherwise they will not be allowed to bid on this auction. However, enforcing a policy such as this will require a bit more work on your part, and I will discuss that in one of the later steps.

2) You CAN however restrict some of these would be fraud perpetrators from bidding on your auctions by making certain requirements as mandatory in order for them to bid on your listings. First, you must specify the location(s) you want to ship your products to at the time you're posting these auctions. You will have to specifically choose which parts of the world you want to ship items to and designate shipping charges for each location. You'll know you've done this correctly if you can see the various countries/locations listed under the Ships to section of your auction pages AFTER you've posted each auction. Then go to My ebay -> Preferences, then look under Selling Preferences and click on Show and then Edit for Buyer Requirements. Here you'll have the opportunity to block buyers who are registered in countries to where you don't ship to, buyers with overall negative feedback, buyers who have recent unpaid item strikes, buyers who don't have PayPal accounts (important to me, as I only accept PayPal payments at this time), among other thigs. And you will be able to apply these restrictions to all of your open listings by checking one last box at the bottom of that page. Keep in mind however, that defrauders who are registered in nation(s) to where you'd like to ship to may still be able to bid on your items.

3) So in order to restrict these con-artists that you can't block based on the characteristics I mentioned above, you'll have to rely on certain clues as well as your gut instincts, and then manually cancel their bids, and add their ebay user IDs to your buyer block list so that they'll not be able to bid on any of your items again. The easiest way to do this is to click on the Help tab located on the top section of most ebay web-pages, and then type in "block bidders" and click the Search Help button. This will reveal various links, and you should click on the first one that says something like Managing Bidders: Preapprove, Block Buyers or Cancel Bids. Doing so will take you to a page where you'll then find 3 more links to cancel bids, block buyers (by their User IDs), and also pre-approve byuers who you know are trustworthy. And so by using the appropriate links here you can then visit the specific pages where you'll be able to cancel bids by defrauders on your existing listings, as well as block them from ever bidding on any of your auctions altogether. This by the way, is also how you'd enforce your personal policy of only allowing bidders who already have a certain number of positive feedback to their credit to bid on your auctions (as noted in Step 1 above). By using the cancel bids option, and the block bidder list, you can easily weed out unworthy buyers who have placed bids on your auctions despite your positive feedback requirements that you've clearly mentioned on your auction pages.

As for relying on clues to determine just who are possible fraud perpetrators, my suggestion is to check their feedback as well as any other information that they have on their ebay profiles, such as their date of registration, location, and their overall transaction activity. If they have very little or even zero feedback, have never sold an item (as selling requires registering a bank account for more thorough identification and security purposes), and are now bidding on your relatively popular high-priced electronic item, then there is certainly grounds for suspicion on your part. Also for instance, let's say you want to sell a product within India, and you have a potential buyer contacting you who claims to be registered there, but wants you to ship to some other country (e.g. Nigeria). That should immediately send off an alarm in your head, and you're probably better off cancelling their bids, and blocking them from bidding on your auctions altogether. Just use your sense of logic and follow your instincts about who seems like an honest buyer and who is a defrauder, and then act accordingly.

Best of luck, guys!

A. Ward
ebay Member: andyward420
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If ebay can do a verification of sellers and buyers and sellers should be allowed the choice to sell to only verified buyers, life would be so much better.

New buyers may have to wait 2-3 days to get verified, but it reduces so much fraud activity. I know it is hard on genuine new buyers.
In paypal you have an option to verify and sellers have an option to only accept payment from verified buyers. So it will not be hard to implement that on ebay.
Regards
Onesimpleman
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taranjeets2k
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i also got a fraud buyer 2 days ago. he wants me to ship the item to nigeria. ebay guys are sleeping. they are doing nothing for it. ebay.in even charged me Final value fee for it as i didnt receive any payment for it. i think ebay.in have to charge FVF and invoice or seller fee after we receive payment. now i am waiting for 26 may, 2007 to file this in dispute and unpaid item as i know the buyer is fraud and he is not gonna pay for it. i dont understand how ebay registered users who give address like this "main road, xyz, haryana" for example, with no house number, no street or sector. strange surprise from ebay.
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taranjeets2k
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do ebay remove FVF for unpaid items? i am trying to contact them but there contact us form is not working for me. how they said in announcement that there contact us form is working correct now.
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